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Community Review & Fund Operations AMA

IOG Catalyst Team host an AMA to address questions the community has about their F10 Fund Operations proposal.

Fund Operations AMA

IOG Catalyst Team host an AMA to address questions the community has about their F10 Fund Operations proposal.

Participants

Nigel Hemsley - Head of Catalyst Governance

Kriss Baird - Product Manager - Catalyst

Daniel Ribar - Catalyst Community Manager (Facilitation)

Steven Johnston - Lead Architect - Catalyst

F10 Catalyst Fund Operations proposal - https://cardano.ideascale.com/c/idea/...arrow-up-right

Extended documentation - https://quality-assurance-dao.gitbook...arrow-up-right

Issue Board for this proposal - https://github.com/orgs/Quality-Assur...arrow-up-right

Timestamps (QADAO)

Timestamps (QADAO) ----------------

Introduction

Introduction - Daniel Ribar - 00:02arrow-up-right

What if proposal not funded ?

What happens if the proposal does not get funded ? - Joey - 01:36arrow-up-right

(Pause in Treasury ?)

Will be a pause during 1694 Hard Fork - Nigel Hemsley - 02:03arrow-up-right

(Training of Cardano dReps, part of Bootstrap period design)

Competitive footing - 02:40arrow-up-right

(Level of IOG Catalyst Team competency, development of competition, first funding period challenge is continuity)

Will IOG funding stop ? - Joey - 03:49arrow-up-right

Yes - Catalyst becomes self sustaining from Cardano - Nigel Hemsley - 04:13arrow-up-right

(Fund operation funded same way as projects)

Operations Challenge Strategy

Operations Challenge Strategy - Tevo - 04:31arrow-up-right

Existing operation needs to know what funding looks like over 1 year - Nigel Hemsley - 05:28arrow-up-right

(Operation or business ?)

(Constrained by funding rules to apply in 1 fund)

(Set out reasonable costs of 3% per fund)

(NB - Total F10 Budget = 50m ADA - 3% =1.5m ADA)

(NB - Total Cost per Fund Period of 4 months: ₳2,140,000 )

Pitch for a year - to scale up takes time - 06:30arrow-up-right

(Annual review position is reasonable)

Why not describe that situation in the Challenge setting ? - Tevo - 07:07arrow-up-right

Could have been an oversight - Nigel - 07:17arrow-up-right

(Level of detail demonstrates transparency)

(Never going to get it perfect)(Identifying improvements)

Benefit of hindsight - Daniel - 07:54arrow-up-right

(Challenge stipulates annual plan)

(Challenge tied to single funding round)

(In hindsight a clearer description that levels the Challenge more)

New funding situation

Kudos to 9 fund operation - Thorsten - 10:04arrow-up-right

New funding situation - Thorsten - 10:36arrow-up-right

(No level playing field)

Assume that everyone is working hard - Thorsten - 11:03arrow-up-right

(Everyone has to pitch in a proposal the same way) (No guarantee of payoff)

Using stage of main Town Hall - Thorsten - 11:31arrow-up-right

(incumbent advantage)(F10 handover not realistically possible)

Not a collaborative approach to say if proposal not funded "its all over" - Thorsten - 12:03arrow-up-right

(If you do not vote for us you walk into uncertainty)

Other people do not have the same stage - Thorsten - 12:25arrow-up-right

(Do not "blackmail" the community)

Consensus on success of Catalyst - Thorsten - 12:44arrow-up-right

(Open up operations to the community )

F11 and F12 opportunities - Thorsten - 13:10arrow-up-right

Cannot answer all of that - Nigel - 13:29arrow-up-right

(Transition from "free" to funded service)(to a successful business)

IOG will ask why do this for free - Nigel - 13:58arrow-up-right

Inclusion - setup already includes community suppliers - Nigel - 14:18arrow-up-right

CIP 1694 direction - Nigel - 14:53arrow-up-right

(Sustainable & secure treasury access)

Difficult for people to compete - Nigel - 15:08arrow-up-right

(Definitely something people can compete with)

NB - Contradiction (Requires similar competency to Catalyst)

Achieve competition over next year - Nigel - 15:38arrow-up-right

Carving up Catalyst - Nigel - 15:50arrow-up-right

Catalyst Team want to run operations for other chains - Nigel - 16:02arrow-up-right

Need for continuity in F10

Need for continuity in F10 - Thorsten - 16:10arrow-up-right

Leveling playing field in F11 & F12 - Thorsten - 16:40arrow-up-right

A year to achieve that - Nigel - 16:53arrow-up-right

Stability more important than change - Thorsten - 17:01arrow-up-right

Importance of a commitment to enabling competition - Thorsten - 17:24arrow-up-right

Make a category in F11 to train people up - Nigel - 17:47arrow-up-right

Upcoming F11 categorization workshops - Daniel - 18:05arrow-up-right

(4 workshops planned)

Cooperation and co-building in the Catalyst Systems Improvement Challenge - Daniel - 18:36arrow-up-right

Meaningful collaboration

Meaningful collaboration in Catalyst Systems Improvements - Steven Johnson - 19:43arrow-up-right

How to approach assessment stage ? - Jorge - 22:20arrow-up-right

Do not be afraid to voice your opinions - Daniel - 23:07arrow-up-right

Accountability, Metrics

50 million in a single transaction - Lloyd - 24:03arrow-up-right

Catalyst Operations proposal step in right direction - Lloyd - 24:47arrow-up-right

(Accountability, Metrics)

Voting for 150 million ADA being returned to the community - Lloyd - 25:20arrow-up-right

(Alternatives too risky)

Vote of confidence - Lloyd - 25:50arrow-up-right

Internal disagreement on timing of F10 - Nigel - 26:09arrow-up-right

Community decides whether they want 3 funds in next year - Nigel - 26:24arrow-up-right

3 questions

3 questions - Lloyd - 27:09arrow-up-right

1 - Will there be a Voltaire vote for Catalyst ?

1 - Will there be a Voltaire vote for Catalyst ? - Lloyd - 27:17arrow-up-right

(As an additional step)

Allocate F10 then figure out the other funding rounds - Nigel - 27:35arrow-up-right

CIP-1694 Bootstrap period - Nigel - 27:54arrow-up-right

(Might have to download 2 funds in 1 round)

Uncertainty going into Voltaire - Lloyd - 28:39arrow-up-right

(Work through as Voltaire progresses)

2 - Building competition

2 - When will next years competition take place ? - Lloyd - 28:57arrow-up-right

(Building competition)(Any leeway ?)

Any operator should have minimum year funding - Nigel - 29:26arrow-up-right

Next proposal category may specify handover - Nigel - 29:42arrow-up-right

Categorical elements, breaking things up - Lloyd - 30:12arrow-up-right

3 - Funding of Working groups

3 - Funding of Working groups ? - Lloyd - 30:39arrow-up-right

(Planned for F11 ?)

Build out from basic infrastructure - Kriss Baird - 31:23arrow-up-right

Structural transition plan ?

Structural transition plan ? - Stephen W - 32:49arrow-up-right

1 - Legal Clarity / 2 - Catalyst Funding Vehicle & Team / 3 - Service Level Agreement - 33:17arrow-up-right

(Risk assessment on transition ?)

Draw down a fund to hold in a legal vehicle - Nigel - 33:58arrow-up-right

(only one beneficiary = Cardano community)(avoid small treasury withdrawals)

Contractual separation based on proposal acceptance ? - Stephen W - 34:33arrow-up-right

Client account analogy - Nigel - 34:50arrow-up-right

(Asset management)(Money only used to fund Catalyst innovation)(Smoother operational setup)

Who drafts service level agreement ?

Who will draft service level agreement ? - Stephen W - 36:15arrow-up-right

Legal counsel will require degree of independence - Nigel - 36:23arrow-up-right

(Dependent on jurisdiction of where Catalyst Trust is setup)

Risk assessment ?

Risk assessment for the transition ? - Stephen W - 36:36arrow-up-right

Only in the way we manage operations currently - Nigel - 36:43arrow-up-right

(Nothing special in terms of risk assessment)

Currency risk ?

Currency risk ? - Stephen W - 37:12arrow-up-right

(Fallback plans for delivery ?)

Same currency risk as everyone - Nigel - 37:24arrow-up-right

(Managing upside and downside)(draw down from Catalyst Development Trust)

Use of any surplus profit ? - Stephen W - 38:06arrow-up-right

Re calibrate the next fund - Nigel - 38:14arrow-up-right

Next 12 months ?

Most important thing to work on in the next 12 months ? - Simon - 39:32arrow-up-right

Consistent funding - Nigel - 40:12arrow-up-right

Cross over with CIP 1694 funding - 40:48arrow-up-right

(Funding from other VCs)

Improve community interaction - 41:20arrow-up-right

(Community involvement in fund operations)

Sustaining grassroots networks - Daniel - 42:00arrow-up-right

(Deterioration of grassroots community over last 6 months)(Volunteering is expensive)

Lowering barriers to entry - Steven - 45:04arrow-up-right

(accessibility of technology stack)(sustainability of services)

Assembly line analogy - Joey - 46:27arrow-up-right

Confidence in funding - 47:25arrow-up-right

Replacement of Ideascale - 48:03arrow-up-right

Assistance with testing - Nigel - 49:05arrow-up-right

Recruit from community - Steven - 49:38arrow-up-right

(partners in process)

Will milestone process apply ?

Will milestone process apply ? - Thorsten - 50:55arrow-up-right

Independent oversight of milestones - Daniel - 51:28arrow-up-right

(IOG sense checking role)(Long process)

Contingency for expansion ?

Contingency for expansion ? - Thorsten - 54:10arrow-up-right

Evaluate and respond - Nigel - 55:16arrow-up-right

(NB - Agile approach)

Evaluate and respond if bigger operation required - Nigel - 55:16arrow-up-right

Data Licensing

Data Licensing - Darlington - 56:37arrow-up-right

Open Source solution - Nigel - 57:46arrow-up-right

Encrypted data - Darlington - 58:05arrow-up-right

GDPR Limits - Steven - 58:31arrow-up-right

(Email address registration causes GDPR responsibilities)(Wallet registration sought in the future).

(Avoiding custody of data also reason to exit Ideascale)

Data liabilities - Daniel - 1:00:12arrow-up-right

Interoperability of data - Steven - 1:02:25arrow-up-right

Short term concerns - Darlington - 1:03:37arrow-up-right

Catalyst System Improvement context - Steven - 1:04:21arrow-up-right

Operational fiduciary detail - Darlington - 1:04:47arrow-up-right

We can look into that - Nigel - 1:05:24arrow-up-right

Open community involvement in process- Darlington - 1:08:01arrow-up-right

Decentralised authorsation - Steven - 1:09:05arrow-up-right

(Role based access control)

Decentralised UX - Steven - 1:14:10arrow-up-right

Co-creation not in milestones ?- Darlington - 1:15:45arrow-up-right

Data migration - Steven - 1:17:49arrow-up-right

Category scoping workshops

Category scoping workshops - Quasar - 1:19:49arrow-up-right

4 biweekly workshops - Daniel - 1:21:14arrow-up-right

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